Steampunk Humbug?
Jake von Slatt — Tue, 07/22/2008 - 19:05
Hearing some really interesting criticism here - but I'm not sure who it's aimed at, unless possibly it's the press and I really can't speak to that.
We are being taken for rubes. At worst, the Steampunkers seem to be mediocre hobbyists with great publicists. It seems fine to me that an obscure niche of DIY hobbyists want to create an imaginary Victorian present, no matter how insular or simpleminded it might be. Reality is what you make of it, even if it is apparent that some people prefer reality to look like a discarded sci-fi movie prop. It is entirely another thing for the press, in their endless “style” trolling, to claim Steampunk as some sort of important movement
As for what I do, it is un-apologetically scrap-booking writ with brass and steel rather then paper and foil. It's damn fun and I'm really happy others are interested because it brings people into a community that understands the shear joy of making things yourself.
And that's the best thing about Steampunk, the community of Steampunks.
As for great publicists, sorry, no. That's DIY too.
Click on through and read for yourself. Alan Rorie has some interesting commentary on his blog: Almost Scientific.
[Emily and Tom Sepe's Whirlygig Emoto appear here because they are pictured in the article and, well, lovely.]
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Dessgeega — Thu, 07/31/2008 - 02:55I think people just get jealous when we trounce them with style. Bashing the results of human resourcefulness just makes you look, well, like a fool.
Sorry chaps but I couldn't
Phog Allen — Mon, 07/28/2008 - 20:43Sorry chaps but I couldn't finish this stupid article. I think this paragraph captures it all;
Yet as Peter Berbergal of the Boston Globe notes, “In all of the new Steampunk design there is a strong nostalgia for a time when technology was mysterious and yet had a real mark of the craftsperson burnished into it.” Never mind the fact that the Victorian era was a time of demystification: Darwin’s theory of natural selection upset centuries of received religious knowledge about human origins, and the mechanization of virtually everything meant you could produce objects, designs and books ten or twenty times faster and distribute them to the very ends of the earth. As Philip Meggs, commenting on the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, has succinctly put it: “Handicraft almost completely vanished. The unity of design and production ended." The world had suddenly become smaller. If Steampunkers are looking to the past for some sort of inspired return to a prior era, then they are running in slack parallel with their ancestors. The Victorians were cultural raiders without peer. Rococo, Tudor, Gothic Revival and the umpteenth generation of Neo-Neo-Classicism were not enough. They went abroad to bring back the ill-gotten gains of their imperial aesthetic loot. Moorish ornaments, Ukiyo-e, Chinese porcelain, hieroglyphics all found their way into Victorian eclecticism. Form before concept.
Yep. Steampunkers are just a bunch of daydreaming slackers who don't understand anything. Does this strike anyone else as just more diatribe from yet another bunch of aging boomers who can't get over themselves? I don't know about the blogger but I am referencing the genius who scripted the above.I can speak to this since I am technically one of them. Born in '63 I were. Yet these pompous, over flatulent windbags deride, ridicule, and generally disdain anyone who doesn't go along with their personal ideas. If you don't, you are simply to ignorant, crass(please, read between the lines of the above paragraph), and unimaginative to really get it that your forebears were a bunch of running dog Yankee, or Limey if your a Brit :), imperialists who wrecked the world. What a crock. I am more a fan of straight up Victorian/Edwardian fashion, literature, and styles. Classic stuff like the architecture he derides and the mechanicals of the day. And even though it was the dawn of the industrial age, most things were, I assure you, developed with a lot of handiwork involved. I have said this to my kids, my mother, and others. Starting about ten years ago my generation and younger have yearned for a more classical, traditional lifestyle that does not eschew the beauty and practicality of industrial age design. I find this a stark, yet beautiful contrast to the godawful plain brick, chrome, and glass of the 40's - 70's. Yuck. Sorry for such a bitter rant but this sort of stuff just makes me dislike these sorts even more than I already do. If this is too much Jake just nuke it. I am a bit grumpy today.
The Funny Thing Is...
SixFactor — Mon, 07/28/2008 - 19:31...the thread over at DO evolved into a full-force conflagration: littered with small flamewars but the overwhelming firepower belonged to the Steampunk supporters.
I think Steampunk has arrived. Congratulations!
(But I caution not getting overexposed too quickly, lest the movement get accused of "selling out" or the aesthetic becoming "mainstream" whatever the heck those terms mean these days).
Lay low, move fast, and always shoot from cover.
6X
my copper penny
tomsepe — Wed, 07/23/2008 - 21:12Here's the response comments that I posted:
My name is Tom Sepe and I'm the creator of the Whirlygig Emoto - (the "steampunk motorbike" that you failed to credit.) http://tomsepe.com/fabrication.html
Firstly, if you are going to make the point that steampunk is non-functional surfactant, then you really shouldn't use a photograph of my bike as an example. The fully-functioning Whirlygig is built on a junked 1967 frame that has been completely re-tooled, gutted and forced to motivate using lead-acid chemical electricity - an 18th century technology that very well could have been society's primary one if not for the oil and rubber industries. (I am of course using modern electronics to control the input and output of electrons, yet the principle is the same one that powered the first electric vehicles.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_electric_vehicle
In addition, my bike sports a fully functional handbuilt steam-boiler, produciing 100psi steampressure in just about 20 minutes. If you want to feel the superficial quality of my steampunk art, then please place your hand over this valve while I open it.
Now, I admit that the steam doesn't power the vehicle, but steampunk doesn't mean "runs on steam" - it's an aesthetic title.... The use of the word "steam" in steampunk is a poetic reference to an era, meant to be an evocative and imagebased. We are talking about art and artists after all.
And although I agree that "function" is a primary component of Steampunk, I would also submit that it is the job of the artist to decide what function is fulfilled. If what you get is a working computer - great! If it is a 1940's parachute that functions as a dress - amazing! If it is a tiny steamboiler that gurgles and confuses - incredible! So to critique a laptop-mod as being "all about the look" is really missing the point. And to critique the entirety of the Steampunk house because of the paint-job in one room is lacking journalistic depth.
What you fail to notice in your reductionism - is that there is a lot going on within this genre, bridging multiple countries and cultures. Including fashion, design, literature, music, art, architecture, unique modifications, custom fabrications, community, skill-share, events and just plain 'ole people doing something they like.
If at worst, Steampunk is "bad hobbyists with great publicists" as you say, then perhaps you might also notice that at its best, Steampunk is a vibrant and multi-faceted artistic movement, that includes men and women, geeks, metal-workers, hobbysts, scientists etc..- a movement that is inspiring people to create beautiful, functioning objects in the world around them, and to share that know-how with anyone who is curious.
Tom Sepe
Well, That was arrogant...
Elepski — Wed, 07/23/2008 - 08:54They may call it what they want....
But in the end... Steampunk is just another subculture that people have decided to align themselves with...
That article's deconstruction of Steampunk is merely an opinion of someone who is clearly uncomfortable with it. And seeing that the site seem to strongly represent the 50's-60's modern movement.. I can see why. Again.. that's my opinion.
Steampunk represents allot of things to allot of people... everyone has their take on what it is and what it means. Yet, somehow this community is able to meet in the middle and share those thoughts and feelings with minimum effort.
The most amazing thing how it started.. on it's own.. not with the help of a mass media push of clothing or other products. People just started doing it and other saw the appeal of it...
I learned of steampunk just by chance.. and investigated it myself... And it ends up... I really changed nothing about what I do to align myself with it. I like to create things and prefer wood and metal, I have always preferred handcrafted over mass produced and (to use an analogy) believe that having a few high quality.. whatevers.. is better than a pile of low quality junk.
This is silly.
Joshua D. LeBlanc — Tue, 07/22/2008 - 21:10This article makes me a little mad. It seems like a big lash out at something he dosen't understand or take any time to actually look into to criticize properly. Calling steampunk in general a hoax because a 'steampunked' laptop dosen't actually use steam and still run on silicon chips is a childish argument and show's a lack of research. Maybe I'm making assumptions here, but it's my understanding that modding look of an object has a goal of just that, changing the appearance. Different people have different tastes, and ours just happen to be brassy. In this case it's purely about ascetics. It's art, and if it's not to you specific liking, then that's your loss. He also seems to neglect all the projects that truly do bring alive Victorian flare without a hint of insincerity, such as restoring and incorporating kerosene lamps, converting RC toys to run off model steam engines, and other total projects like The Brass Lion (a recumbent trike).
This part sums up my understanding of his understanding:
"One could easily argue that following the etched surface of a printed circuit board would provide no less a fascinating visual "map" of the processes of a computer or electronic device."
Clearly missed the point on what about, and why it's interesting. Basically, I think he just dosen't 'get it' and is bullying something he dosen't understand.
I know I'm being argumentative and not giving his points much value, but I don't see any gain from listening to criticism form someone who dosen't get it.
It reminds me of Merlin Mann's Steampunk DIY video blog monologue, but at least that was a little more informed and lets be honest, it was a little funny if taken in a self reflexive manner.
I got the sense that the
Jake von Slatt — Wed, 07/23/2008 - 10:32I got the sense that the message of the article is "best leave design to the professionals" on which I call bullshit.
It reminds me a lot of the articles I used to read in the IT press that said things like "If Open Source is to be accepted in the marketplace, it needs to . . . " Articles written by IT pundits without a clue as to the nature and motivation behind the Open Source Movement.
Hence arrogance...
Elepski — Wed, 07/23/2008 - 12:42Agreed... I did get that sense of his nose being somewhere between 90 and 180 degrees the whole time (ha.. that was a good one).... It seems that Professional designers are in it for the professional part.. rather than the design part... and that's what separates us.
That.."I will define your style" attitude just flat out pisses me off....
steampunk, et al
Punkerpan — Mon, 07/28/2008 - 11:42i like it. as i like brass, copper, overengineered brackets, and designs that look good and work, in the sense of looks as a critical part of functionality. i also love to work in leather. cowhide, deerskin, pigskin,and kangaroo pelts. the more varied the better, the more challenging.
i have been treating technology to my own sensibilities for some time now, and am ecstatic to have found a home with this genre. i plan to cover a bicycle frame in leather soon, just for the warmth and tactile feedback.
thank you all for being here. i am no longer feeling so alone in my expressions.