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DIY RV Macerator Pump

Jake von Slatt — Mon, 08/24/2009 - 14:01

When you own an RV one of the things you have to deal with is dumping the waste tanks at the end of your stay in a campground.  This is generally not a big deal, you pull up to the dump station, usually located along the driveway on your way out, hook up your waste hose and dump your tanks by opening the 3" slide valve.

But what do you do if you go camping somewhere other than a campground?  Well, south of the Mason-Dixon line you will find  numerous facilities where you can dump for free or for a small fee, but such services seem to be a whole lot rarer up North.  In my case we often take the RV up to visit my sister and her family in Maine and park in their driveway. There's really no conveinient place to dump when we return.

So I decided to see if I could cobble something up to make this task easier.

The solution to dumping your tanks without having to carry a 100' 3" diameter house is to use a macerating pump so that you can pump your tanks out through a garden house and into a city sewer of private septic system.  There are commercial pumps that you can buy for this but I had this old Insinkerator Dispos-all kicking around . . .

Step one was repairing the garbage disposer.  This turned out to be pretty easy.  Leakage around the seal had caused the top bushing to seize and spin in it's clip causing the rotor to bind against the stator.  I freed everything up, re-secured the bushing, and lubed it with axle grease to help keep it free.  My guess is that I would face the same problem if I re-installed the dispos-all in the sink, but it should last for many years with the light "duty" it will get as a macerator pump.

Once I got it working I found, to my delight, that the top of the disposer - once all of the gaskets and flanges were removed - was exactly 3" in diameter!

I drilled and tapped (4) 5/16" bolts into the top and had a perfect seal!

Next I drilled a 7/8" hole in a piece of 1/8" brass and soldering in a brass garden hose fitting.  This bolted in place of the original drain flange.

The completed black water macerator pump! The dishwasher connection was plugged with a #2 rubber stopper inserted from the inside.

I made a waste hose with two 3" female fittings and hooked everything up.

I pried up the edge of our septic tank lid and tucked the hose in.  Next I opened the waste valve and  turned on the power.  It worked like a charm!

It drained the half full 100 gallon tank in about 10 minutes and handled all of the solids without the slightest complaint.  I briefly held the hose as high in the air as I could and the pump had sufficient head to lift the water 7' while maintaining plenty of flow.

Once the tank emptied the hose could easily be reposition to let the last bits dribble out.

I'm quite pleased with this quick little hack!

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Question about lift/head

blickcd — Fri, 02/03/2012 - 12:48

First off, a really clever design. Considering that most RV macerators are expensive and get lousy reviews due to poor reliability and getting easily clogged with hair, this might be the way to go.

Now you mentioned that you can get 7' of head out of this pump/disposal with what I assume is clear or gray water, but your main use seems to be pumping long distances with little change in elevation. My intended use would be to pump out both toilet and gray water holding tanks from a travel trailer, up and into a tank located in the back of a pickup truck to haul the waste to a remote dump station. Total lift would be 5' at most but would contain ground up waste.

I was wondering if you had ever used yours for this purpose, or if anyone else reading has built a similar unit and has, and what the results were.

Thanks,
Christopher

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The 3/4 HP Evolution Compact

Wobbly — Wed, 11/10/2010 - 10:58

The 3/4 HP Evolution Compact disposer which I bought from Craigslist for $25 was only a year old. It doesn't have a flange on which to mount the bayonet bolts, and the discharge fitting is a floppy rubber piece without much gripping area. After several messy iterations, first using GOOP, then epoxy putty, the connections were leak free. The garden hose I used was a 100' "contractors' hose". I thought that it was 3/4" diameter, but it might be just a heavy duty 5/8" diameter one. Couldn't get any flow through it. Using the cheap 1-1/4 sump pump hose from Home Depot worked well, but the hose is easy damaged by abrasion when dragging it around the ground.

Thanks for the idea.

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Thanks for the update! I love

Jake von Slatt — Wed, 11/10/2010 - 11:04

Thanks for the update! I love when people do that!

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My trial run was at 9PM last

Wobbly — Wed, 11/10/2010 - 12:15

My trial run was at 9PM last night. In the cold light of day, I can see that the hose was not a "contractors' hose', but a "commercial duty hose". More significantly, there were 4 or 5 of kinks in it when I moved it, so maybe it was too "kinky" last night.

Cheers,

Wobbly

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Would it make sense...

Amerloc — Mon, 09/21/2009 - 18:55

...to add another hose fitting rather than plugging the dishwasher inlet to supply fresh water to flush the whole thing? Or would it be better to just run fresh water through from inside the RV?

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I run the water in the RV

Jake von Slatt — Mon, 09/21/2009 - 19:51

I run the water in the RV when dumping the tank, the waste water enters the tank at the opposite end so it does a good job flushing it out.

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does the pump need to be

Shimrra — Sun, 08/30/2009 - 10:10

does the pump need to be upright?
or could you cut out the connecting hose altogether and just use one of the little twist sealers and have it right on the valve?
thats a cool little hack you got there no matter what though!

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Excellent IDEA!

tcdavidson — Wed, 08/26/2009 - 10:17

I have a defunct disposer in the kitchen now... hope I can resurrect to do teh same! Now, if I incorporate my 12V inverter and wire up some battery feed terminals by the wastegate... hmmm.....

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hose mixup?

grampymoose — Mon, 08/24/2009 - 16:45

As and avid RVer, this looks really handy. I have one drawback ...

The white hose "garden" is for potable water ... no problem. The green "garden" hose is for washing the RV ... must find a way to identify the sewage hose so we don't wash the RV with ... eewww!

Great project!

Grampymoose

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Color coding!

AllThatJazz — Tue, 09/01/2009 - 17:51

FYI, Sears and Walmart both have heavy duty ('cause this is one time springing a leak is unacceptable!) garden hoses in black. The Sears hose also features an internal o-ring seal.

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Black hose for "black water"?

Technogeek — Mon, 08/31/2009 - 21:49

Or use wire ties to affix big tags to both ends of the hose. Or something like that...

Outside of that... this reminds me of the time an engineer, after looking at the design for NASA's space toilet, scribbled a note saying "I guess the s**t really is supposed to hit the fan!"

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 Wash the RV? People do that?

Jake von Slatt — Mon, 08/24/2009 - 18:32

 Wash the RV? People do that?  ;-)

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