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Chandelier Candle Retro-fit

Jake von Slatt — Mon, 10/19/2009 - 12:19

When we moved into our house there was an electric chandelier in our dining room.  It was an adequate enough fixture but incandescent chandeliers are terribly inefficient, six 25 watt bulbs actually put out a fraction of the amount of light as a single bulb of half the combined wattage, and while they do make candelabra base compact fluorescent bulbs, I find their light cold, harsh, and they are not very dim-able.

Besides, nothing beats real candle light for a romantic dinner at home.

We removed the chandelier and installed a simple, clean, light fixture which we fitted with a par of 23 watt (100 watt equivalent light output) compact fluorescent bulbs.  The glass shade attached to the fixture with a threaded cap which I replaced with a loop fitting from a swag lamp.  I then converted the electric chandelier to a candle chandelier and hung it from the center of the new ceiling lamp.

So now we have a nice bright and efficient overhead light for daily use and an elegant hanging chandelier for special occasions.

 

I have a stack of chandeliers from the dump. Some of them are pretty, and some are pretty awful.  It's interesting that some of the really awful electric ones are transformed into things of beauty when converted to candles.  Others, however, can't be saved. I fear this example is one of those, but lets go ahead see what happens!

 

Step one, remove the chain and extract the wires, just cut them off and pull them out.

 

I like to remove all of the wires so I completely disassembled the lamp. In the center section there is usually a junction where everything is connected, just cut away all of the wire you can reach with your cutters.

 

This lamp, like most, is held together by sections of 3/8" threaded tubing - this is one of the things that makes lamp hacking fun. The standardization of electric lamp parts means that you can mix and match freely among all of the lamps and lamp parts you can buy or find.

Interestingly, many of these parts were originally developed for gas lighting systems and some are components originally design to mate gas lamp parts to electric lamps.  For instance this bent and threaded piece of steel connects two lengths of pipe and make a place for the wires to exit.  I don't know the origins of it's name, but it is called a 'hickey.'

 

Next remove the plastic sleeve around the base of the light bulb sockets and cut the wires there.  This lamp had sleeves that were actually dipped in wax for a more authentic appearance!

Once the wired are cut at each socket you'll be able to pull the rest of them through.

 

Unscrew the sockets from each arm and break off the 'nut' part by bending back and forth with some pliers. 

 

Screw the 'nut' back on and tighten.

 

That's all there is to it! The shells that surround the fake candle come in various sizes, 1" and 1 3/4" seem to be the most common.  With a little shaving of wax, or application of masking tape, standard candles can be made to fit fairly easily.

 

However, I've been collecting old candles from the dump for some time and I have a stockpile of old ugly pillars and blocks that I periodically re-melt into molds I've custom made to produce candles that fit my chandeliers.

 

This is about 5 pounds of wax re-melted and poured with a little red dye added.  The Altoids tin candles are great for camping and emergencies, I just bend a little circle of the wire-core wick material to make a little stand and then drop the wicks in the liquid wax after pouring it into the tins.

 

This is a chandelier in my office. As an electric light fixture, it was pretty hideous - but with candles it's transformed!

 

As I said, light fixtures use standard hardware allowing the mixing, matching, and mashing-up of different elements.  While I'm not sure this particular combination of our chandelier with a table lamp makes a worthy candelabra, it certainly makes a fine, fine Hallowe'en prop!

 

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Candle Wax

petero — Mon, 02/01/2010 - 05:29

Great site. Love your lateral thinking.

-- Just a quick heads-up on using unknown sources of candle wax. You may already know but just in case you haven't come across it, there can be some pretty nasty undocumented ingredients in both natural and petroleum-based candle waxes, as well as in the candle wicks and colouring agents. Google around, check OSHA, and so forth but in short, the concern is the presence of heavy metals in the wax and the vapour release during combustion. Sometimes they are present by design, as they help tone the colour of the flame and shape its silhouette, while in other instances, well, not so much... One man's toxic sludge may be other man's money-making candle enterprise.

Cheers.

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Nice approach

Technogeek — Sun, 12/20/2009 - 22:33

My own dining-room chandelier is of a design which wouldn't be amenable to this, but I do like the effect.

If you're using either candles or oil lamps, DON'T leave them unattended, and make sure you've got a fire extinguisher where you can get to it quickly (which is a good investment anyway). Please don't ask why I consider that an important warning. Besides, if you aren't going to stay there and admire them, there's not much point in lighting them in the first place.

I need to find a source for swag lamp loops. I "inherited" a ceiling-mount lamp that I want to refit and use that way. Unfortunately, all I've found so far is a fitting intended as the ceiling mount for a chandelier, which was apparently made for a different diameter of threaded pipe than the one this lamp uses.

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Nicely done

Waterbug — Wed, 10/21/2009 - 01:58

After a friend's home nearly burned down from a forgotten candle we banned them from our home. But this set up looks to be fairly safe. Should a candle fall I would bet it would go out before landing.

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On your dining room chandelier:

GeekLady — Tue, 10/20/2009 - 09:10

How sturdy is that setup? The combination of flush mount and hanging fixture isn't too heavy, is it? And can you buy that little loopy bit that you used to connect the two, or do you have to use other acquisition methods?

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It's not very heavy, as long

Jake von Slatt — Tue, 10/20/2009 - 09:56

It's not very heavy, as long as the fixture is correctly installed and the electrical box mount per code, there's no problem at all.

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Okay, and you have to unscrew

GeekLady — Tue, 10/20/2009 - 17:55

Okay, and you have to unscrew the loop fitting to change the light bulbs, right? That's why the chandelier is hung by that open link of chain?

Can you buy loop fittings like that?

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Damnit!

GeekLady — Tue, 10/20/2009 - 08:36

Now I can't decide whether to just spray paint my ugly "brass finish" chandelier to look like wrought iron, or to convert it to a candle chandelier or convert to candles then spray paint it.

Curse you, Jake von Slatt!

(I have an identical chandelier to the one in your first photo...)

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Is that a Cole-steel filing

zahal — Mon, 10/19/2009 - 15:09

Is that a Cole-steel filing cabinet i spy in picture #11

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 Yep. Found it by the

Jake von Slatt — Mon, 10/19/2009 - 16:19

 Yep. Found it by the roadside one day.  It's where I keep the angle grinder and it's accessories as well as the 2 ton hoist and various straps, slings and rigging.

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someone in my neighborhood

zahal — Mon, 10/19/2009 - 17:48

someone in my neighborhood just tossed a filing cabinet, large lock box and small file card keeper. The stuff looks to be 50 years old and is still solid as a rock

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I trust..

Harlequin — Wed, 10/21/2009 - 03:55

I trust they are now YOUR filing cabinet, large lock box and small file card keeper?

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Of course.

zahal — Wed, 10/21/2009 - 11:05

Of course they are. I sanded and painted the filing cabinet, its here next to me in the office.

Jake, i thought you might like this flash game; http://deadwhale.com/play.php?game=1179

it has some very steampunkish elements. The game itself is kind of silly, but i thought you might appreciate the design.

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